Monday, January 15, 2007

Fly Byes.

A deadweight has been cut loose from around my neck and I’ve been set free; set free to fly.


I have been accruing wretched, bloody Fly Buys points since… glory, how long has it been? Well, since soon after the scheme’s inception in 1994, so 10 years, at least. Right from the start, a friend of mine who worked in Marketing at BP called Fly Buys, “the worst customer loyalty scheme in history.” As Fly Buys was linked to Shell, not BP, however, I assumed his was just a case of sour grapefruits, and kept on collecting those points anyway. I mean, I had to buy petrol, I had to buy groceries; why not get a little something extra for doing the things I had to do anyway?

The problem, of course, is that it takes more than the odd purchase of petrol and assorted food stuffs to collect enough points for even the smallest of shiny trinkets. It takes strategic purchasing and lifestyle alteration to get anywhere close, and with no credit card, no home loan, and no dupes to farm additional cards out to, I was left paddlin’ around in the shallows.

But I plugged away with my groceries, my petrol, and occasional BONUS! points from a triple-pack of chewing gum or whatever, only to discover several years into the scheme that Fly Buys points have a shelf life! Don’t cash them in within three years and, like your dreams for that ‘Kambrook Pancake Factory + Omlette Maker’, they disappear in a puff of smoke. You don’t just need to work hard, you need to work fast! I was trapped on a treadmill of insanity, frantically grabbing for new points while old ones flew out behind like a ticker-tape parade down Main Street.

I should have jumped there and then, but it was like being on hold for 20 minutes: If I’d known it was going to take this long, I wouldn’t have bothered, but now that I have, I can’t give up, because then it REALLY will have been for nothing. And if I’ve been at it this long, surely the end will come any second now… any second… five, four, three, two, one… and a half, one… damn it! Too late I realised my friend had been right all along, and every time I used my card I felt him and his beloved BP Bookmuncher floating just over my shoulder, shaking their heads in disappointment.

And then, out of the blue, Fly Buys sent me a second card that someone else could use, but that would be linked to my account. With duplicitous words and promises of untold riches I convinced Kate to join me, hoping that together we could knock this one over the fence. And we did actually manage to make some small headway, and so set ourselves the goal of gathering the 12,000 points required for a dozen bottles of wine, before getting out the scissors and calling it a day.

Fast-forward several lifetimes, and at last that great day arrived. The day we held in our trembling hands a Fly Buys statement with enough points for the Wyndham Estate Mixed Dozen! We simply could not believe this journey was about to end. And, of course, it wasn’t. The statement had arrived on the last day of the month, and 300 precious points were primed to be blasted into oblivion when the new month began. A loss that would take us just under the required number of points. “Quickly! Find the phone,” I bellowed. “Let’s cash these first-born in while there’s still time!” Which, of course, there wasn’t. It was now outside business hours, and the head-smashingly perky Fly Buys robot told me to call back tomorrow when the team would be delighted to assist me with my enquiry. “To the Internet!” I screamed. “There are no business hours on the Internet!” Which, of course, there are. And after logging in I discovered that not only had they shut down for the day, they’d also already stripped me of my 300 points although the current month had several hours to live! It seemed as though the excruciating journey would go on.

But then Bomber – who had recently brought his own drawn out Fly Buys saga to a 12 bottle conclusion – swept down like an angel of mercy and bestowed his wisdom upon me. While my 11,992 points was not enough for the Wyndham dozen, it was more than enough for the Cleanskin Dozen. “Cash ‘em in, and be done with it,” he ordered me, and I did. Twelve labels are not worth the grief.

And so, a new dawn. Yesterday, I filled up the car at whatever service station I happened to be driving past, handed over some cash, and walked the hell away. It was great. On my way home I also popped into whatever supermarket was convenient, which just so happened to be Coles. At the register, the checkout executive asked me if I had Fly Buys? “Certainly don’t,” I replied with a smile. “I’ve just set myself free from Fly Buys and ditched my card into the bin. It’s wonderful.” With an expression as bored as a plank of wood, she held my gaze for a second, before wordlessly turning back to her register to complete my transaction.

Oh well, I never expected everyone to share my excitement.

54 comments:

  1. Good to hear you got something. As for your BP mate, if it was the "worst loyalty program in history" how come it's lasted 13 years with five million awards handed out?

    Of course, your graphic gives away something you've missed. Awards now available from 2,500 points. No need to stress about the 36 month mark any more.

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  2. Amen Brother. And the clean skins are not bad at all, perfect for the odd bottle of plonk to be consumed at a BBQ or when sitting at home after a long day at the office.

    I also get extreme excitement politely declining at the register when asked if I have em...

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  3. And phil, as for Awards for 2500 points... They are useless items to begin with.

    Plus, now that the wine has been purchased, in order to save that 2500 points back up from the low value we all have, it will take another 10 years.

    It is the worst loyalty program ever. People have it because it was free and most of the people got on board years ago when flights were a possible reward. It did not cost anything to have or to use... which is why they made it so difficult to gain anything from it.

    Personally I have a infinate amount of slots in my wallet these days, and the Flybuys aint one of them...

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  4. Welcome Phil,

    I think he'd say it's lasted because there's a sucker born every minute. Hehe. And also because there are plenty of people who aren't like me and can take advantage of the combo-punches available.

    No, I saw that they've lowered the bar, but when a Kamahl DVD will knock you back 4,000 points, I can't imagine 2,500 will get you anything better than a paper bag filled with dirt.

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  5. And Bombalomba, as I was over 12,000 and the cleanskins only cost 10,000, I'm actually (relatively) close to having enough for another REWARD. Which actually made cutting my card in half all the more satisfying. If I'd decided to fight on for one more trinket, then I would have known it really had me. This way it's like throwing out an almost full pack of cigarettes when you're trying to quit smoking. :)

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  6. Dear brethren

    Thanks for the feedback. So bomberino, what's "useless" about a $20 voucher (2,500 points) to use at Coles, Kmart or Target? It might not be much money, but it ain't useless. Apostropher, if you're there at the supermarket or servo anyway, what have you got to lose? No more stress as that many points will be a pushover. Oh, and bomber-boy, flights are actually still on the menu last time I checked...

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  7. "...what's "useless" about a $20 voucher..."

    A $20 voucher isn't useless, but it's also not worth the struggle it takes to get it.

    "...if you're there at the supermarket or servo anyway, what have you got to lose?"

    I mentioned this in my post. It's all happy-go-lucky at the start, but when you see your total growing at a glacial pace, it's not long before you're driving past servos to find a Shell, even though your tank's about to run dry, and then at the register you pick up two chocolate bars you don't need just to get the bonus points, and then at home you start leafing through the Fly Buys newsletter to see the specials at the supes...

    For $20 I'd rather not bother.

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  8. "it's also not worth the struggle it takes to get it. "

    Don't know your personal situation, apostropher, but I fail to see the "struggle" for the average family.

    If a family spends $200 per week at the supermarket (and this is close to the national average), and puts $50 of fuel in one of their cars every week, then without chasing the choccy bars or other bonus points, they would rack up enough points for bomber's "useless" $20 voucher every six months. You could even afford to go to the opposition half the time and still get something every year.

    Some might consider that glacial, but those who have taken the five million FlyBuys awards so far probably wouldn't reckon so.

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  9. 1 point for every 20 bucks spent used to be standard unless you stumble on special deals... Hmmm lets see, that means I will need to spend 50 grand to get a 20 buck voucher which will not even buy me a latest CD.

    Then points begin to expire... and I think this is the main beef we as a collective fly buy card chopper uppers have. You see that lovely dozen wines which will go well for the next couple of months... pick up some points through the month, and pow, you loose more than you make so the more you spend and you still go backwards.

    Good luck to those who persue it butthe Astro Boy and I are more than happy to free that last space in our wallet for our Ambulance membership card which will be required after we are crushed with the rush of shoppers going for the 20 buck vouchers...

    And while you are up to speed with all the gory details Phil, How much would a flight cost us in real terms (Cash spent to have the points) and will it be a flight we can choose or a mystry flight to North Parkes at a time which is suitable to coles?

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  10. Hi bomber

    “1 point per $20” went out in 1998 and that was when the points required were on a totally different currency. You probably remember that from the days when it was in BP's interests to spread the “worst loyalty program ever” stories. As opposed to the screamingly-successful GM card (missing, presumed lost, for many years now) that BP heavily backed at the time.

    As per previous note the average family can easily get a $20 voucher every six months. Agree $20 isn’t a lot, but if you were getting nothing from the equivalent spend at BP/Woolies, then what have you got to lose? FlyBuys buys its tickets from Qantas, and has access to a decent fare class, so flight availability is way better than for Qantas frequent flyer members.

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  11. If a family spends $200 per week at the supermarket ... and puts $50 of fuel in one of their cars every week..."

    Exactly. My little unit doesn't push figures like that through the register each week, and so this scheme doesn't work for me. However, as I've already said, there are people who do, and good luck to 'em. I hope they enjoy their six-monthly bonanzas.

    "1 point for every 20 bucks spent used to be standard..."

    Yeah, they changed it to two points per $5 a while ago, Bomber.

    ”As opposed to the screamingly-successful GM card (missing, presumed lost, for many years now) that BP heavily backed at the time.”

    Glory. My sarcasm detector just exploded! So, Phil, you know who my friend with his interests worked for; who are you currently working for? :)

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  12. Phil appears to be very pro Fly Buy... which makes me wonder, firstly... why, and secondly, why he has such interest in two noddy nobodies exercise their choice of chopping their cards which have personally provided us with a case of wine, that has been just about drunk now...

    So Phil, fess up, why the loyalty to a loyalty program which the blog author has well within his rights to blog against?

    As you can see, we have a massive audience here so your arguments for the lovely fly buy program is not being heard by many... and regardless of your justification of the many families who will benefit from the program, we aint coming back... if that is your goal.

    So what is the craic? what is the interest in the program?

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  13. OK, so I am out dated and it is 2 points per 5 bucks... so that mean we need to spend over 6 grand to get 20 bucks of vouchers...

    Although I openly support the getting something for nothing, it is a far too painfully slow process leading me to the position I am now... that I really just could not be farked any more.

    In the end, that card was taking up too valuable realestate in my wallet... like my RACV card. I am a memeber of the RACV for road side support, have been for years. They give me a card and I just need to show it to get discounts at store I regually frequant... That is a program I like. That is something for nothing...

    Anyway, as Astro and I have mentioned. Good luck to those who get something out of the program. We will coontinue to bag it ;-)

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  14. Cancelling:
    Today 'Fly Buys Card'.
    Tomorrow 'Credit Card'?

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  15. As you can see, we have a massive audience here
    You underestimate your global reach. It extends to at least ck and me. :)

    So Phil, fess up, why the loyalty to a loyalty program which the blog author has well within his rights to blog against?
    Of course, that’d be telling. But put it this way. I have an interest in such things. To out it another way, I'm interested enough to have a Google alert on “FlyBuys”. :) By the way, very happy to defend your right to blog!

    RACV ... They give me a card and I just need to show it to get discounts at store I regually frequant... That is a program I like. That is something for nothing
    Regularly frequent? Apart from (arguably) Rebel Sport, which giants of retail participate? “Communication clinic”, “Laubman & Pank”, “Tint a car”, “Protectabag”. Yes, the list just goes on and on. You could just possibly argue that one would frequent Coles Supermarkets and Shell service stations just a tad more than “Wooling Hill Memorial Garden Estate” (another biggy in their list). The point is, would you rather obtain a modest discount for something you do every week, or a healthy discount from something you do never?

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  16. Basically Phil, Fly Buys have lost us, and we aint coming back.

    I think the main issue being that it was frustrating for us to use and take advantage for what we would like to use it for (wine). In the end I am much happier being without it.

    Good luck hunting down other non believers, and I hope to see you on a corner somewhere preching the benfits to get other back from the dark side. Be sure to wave at me, I look like Elvis.

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  17. This is the post I've been waiting for since Loam weekend away! Thanks for sharing the agony and that sweet, joyful conclusion... nice.

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  18. ”Cancelling: Today 'Fly Buys Card'. Tomorrow 'Credit Card'?"

    What do you mean, CK? You know I don’t have a credit card. Don’t you?

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  19. "You underestimate your global reach. It extends to at least ck and me. :)

    Ha, ha. You're right, but follow the link back to CK's blog. I'm not sure a man with no possessions and no job would be of much interest to Fly Buys. :)

    "To out it another way, I'm interested enough to have a Google alert on “FlyBuys”. :)"

    Haha. Phil, that’s hilarious. The power of Google! I should start blogging about other brands and see what fishies I catch! But now I'm even more curious about your relationship to Fly Buys. I see that all your comments were posted during work hours, but I'm not sure what that signifies; other than your "interest" doesn't extend into your personal time... I don't have enough data on you, Phil! I need you to sign up to a Commas Commenter Program so I can know everything about you!! :)

    Though speaking of which, on the subject of "what have you got to lose," as I was googling around myself (trying to see if you pop up on other people's blogs), I came across this page. The guy goes into a bit of detail on loyalty programs AND THERE'S EVEN A CHART! One thing he said was:

    By giving customers a plastic card with a unique ID encoded on it, and encouraging the customer to produce that card every time they make a purchase, retailers get to associate purchases made at different times and at different stores with the one customer. They also will have made the customer provide their name, address and other demographic data at time of signup. This means the retailer can work out e.g. what models of leaf blowers are most popular with married male self-funded retirees (and therefore should be advertised in Holding Hands in an Autumn Breeze - The Magazine For Married Male Self-funded Retirees Looking for a Leaf Blower).

    I'm not generally paranoid, but keeping yourself off one more commercial database seems like a good enough goal in and of itself.

    Oh, and though I was able to find a number of people with Fly Buys axes (only 125,000 points) to grind, I wasn't able to find a trace of "Phil" anywhere! Is your alert failing you, or should I be flattered that you found me worthy of trying to win back? :)

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  20. Small Kate! Welcome to the Path, and thanks for your comment. Sorry to have kept you waiting so long, but... I guess that's somehow appropriate! I know my post is no 12 bottle reward, but it's unfortunately all I have to give :)

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  21. I'm not generally paranoid, but keeping yourself off one more commercial database seems like a good enough goal in and of itself

    I’d only give that a moderate paranoia rating, “r. Depends what they do with it. If they’re like a mail order book company I mistakenly dealt with, they interpreted that me buying a book about dodgy ankles (being the owner of one) meant that I was the candidate to be sent tens of offers for books that assumed that the rest of my body was falling apart, and that my sexual performance was in need of a lift! However, to take another book example, Amazon does an excellent job of bringing book titles to my attention in a non-invasive manner, based on my past purchases. For companies like FlyBuys, they pretty quickly realised that they would put at risk the goodwill of those who (unlike you) value the program (not dismissing the reasons for your undervaluation, of course) if they sold off your name to others (illegal) or gave any impression they were invading your privacy. However if they used that information to make offers to you that were relevant and attractive, then you’d probably welcome that in favour of some generic filler in, say, the RACV magazine. :)

    Oh, and though I was able to find a number of people with Fly Buys axes to grind, I wasn't able to find a trace of "Phil" anywhere! Is your alert failing you

    No, but most of them appear to be bored checkout folk who detest customers (and people in general, it would seem) rather than having a FlyBuys axe (not currently available in award catalogue) to grind.

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  22. Apostropher (I don't know how to put a comment segment in italics.. I put the 'tag' at the start but when I publish it says the tag is not closed ??)

    'You' don't have a Credit Card, but you together with your wife (as a couple / household) use one.

    And thanks for blowing my cover, I was going to side with Phil and get friendly enough with him that he would tell me his 'secret connection' to Fly Bys, and then I was going to pull down his pants and expose him!

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  23. "...FlyBuys ... pretty quickly realised that they would put at risk the goodwill of those who value the program if they sold off your name to others (illegal) or gave any impression they were invading your privacy."

    Yes, and to be fair, beyond the newsletter/magazine thing I didn't get bothered much by Fly Buys. And I wasn't trying to imply that they engage in illegal activites, just saying that in these crazy times I like to keep my name off as many databases as possible. Especially ones that question my sexual performance! (Hope you got that one sorted out.) ;)

    "No, but most of them appear to be bored checkout folk who detest customers (and people in general, it would seem)..."

    Ha. Yes, I noticed that too. Retail can be a soul-crushing business.

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  24. CK - You need a little HTML goodness. Kids these days and their browsers with built-in formatting buttons! Whatdya do when they're not there? Although I shouldn't be too hard; it's nice that you want to make the effort. The open italic tag is <i> and the close italic tag is </i>. I also like to use quotation marks when quoting people, but that's just me. I won't delete your comments if you don't. :)

    "'You' don't have a Credit Card, but you together with your wife (as a couple / household) use one."

    Well yes, that's true, but (and no offense to Phil), a credit card's a much more useful thing than a Fly Buys card.

    "And thanks for blowing my cover, I was going to side with Phil... and then..."

    I applaud your plan, CK, but I'd appreciate it if you'd use your own blog for... such activities as you describe.

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  25. I have actually grown to like Phil now.

    He is neither pushy or abusive and respects that we no longer give a sh!t about Fly Buys other than something to rant about.

    But then again I am very curious as to his role in the world as he knows a lot about reward programs in general.

    My guess is marketing... maybe reserach or statistics etc.

    I don't like how he is not sharing his profile however.

    Anyway, I am off to drink one of my clean skins...

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  26. But then again I am very curious as to his role in the world as he knows a lot about reward programs in general.

    Nah, nothing dramatic, bomber. Rewards program is close, though.

    I don't like how he is not sharing his profile however.

    Sorry, not intentional; bit new to all this. When I first went to reply, it just asked for my Google account, which I gave and that was it. I’ll look into the profile stuff.

    Well yes, that's true, but (and no offense to Phil), a credit card's a much more useful thing than a Fly Buys card.

    Yes, but not always free, and you have to hand over all those pesky personal financial details before you get one…

    "And thanks for blowing my cover, I was going to side with Phil... and then..."

    Could have been quite interesting methinks

    (Hope you got that one sorted out.)

    Wrote the nastiest letter imaginable, threatened to go the Privacy Commissioner. No reply, and I still don’t know whether I'm off their list. But when you get unsolicited mail which has “material of a private and adult nature enclosed” emblazoned on it, other members of the family ask questions…

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  27. "I have actually grown to like Phil now."

    Yeah, he's been good value, hasn't he? He's a smart-arse, but he's a well-informed smart-arse, and... actually that's the worst kind! Well he's been a polite, well-informed, smart-arse then, so it's all good. I particularly enjoyed his reference to the “Wooling Hill Memorial Garden Estate.” I'll have to look that place up.

    And speaking of well-informed smart-arses: the biggest surprise for me in this whole thread is that we haven't heard a keytap from our regular Vocal Minority, Devil's Advocate and Chief Agitator! I know Mr Glamma is overseas on holiday, but he's managed to post some anti-Apple rhetoric on another thread,* and I know he's a big Fly Buys fan, so I'm surprised by the silence. I was anticipating a stoush when I made my original post, but not with some newcomer called Phil.

    Although, I've got to say, except for that "Bomberino" bit and the lack of obscure movie references, Phil does sound an awful lot like JJ. To the extent that I suddenly realised I'd never seen the two of them in the same thread at the same time! Could JJ, so tired of us refusing to be drawn onto the field of debate, have constructed this new, false identity, hoping to catch us off guard?

    We'll possibly never know!

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  28. Well he's been a polite, well-informed, smart-arse then, so it's all good.

    Thank you for your kind words and the good-humoured manner in which you have accepted my jousting.

    Could JJ, so tired of us refusing to be drawn onto the field of debate, have constructed this new, false identity, hoping to catch us off guard?

    I swear on the bible and a stack of Rothmans Football Yearbooks that I have never heard of JJ, let alone some of the other fol you mentioned. As previously confessed, my entrance into your world is simply via the teleporter called Google Alerts “Fly Buys”. In an attempt to differentiate myself from the alliterated-one, let me espouse the following touch (not FlyBuys) points:

    Blackadder looking at bookshelves + CD collections religion (Christianity) The Lord of the Rings trilogy This Is Spinal Tap Monty Python & the Holy Grail Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Dandy Warhols Foo Fighters Spiderbait They Might Be Giants The White Stripes

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  29. My old-style Fly Buys card literally fell apart last year and I ordered a replacement, which I promptly lost.

    I haven't got around to replacing it.

    I also have to get around to ringing up Loyalty Pacific's customer service line to get them to take my parents and brother off my account and replace them with my wife. Again, it's not a high priority so I generally don't find the time to do it until after 7pm or on a weekend. Which means, given the "customer service" hours Fly Buys operates, that it doesn't get done.

    I fully intend to do it one day, though.

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  30. Oh, and on a personal note (or two):

    So, I'm not polite?

    Did you not read the last post I made in the Apple thread? What I wrote was never "anti-Apple"; nor was it "rhetoric".

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  31. JJ, leave them on your account! When they spend, you get the points, which means you too can get a case of clean skins which in turn I can drink!

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  32. “So, I'm not polite?"

    HO! THERE HE IS! JJ, in failing to mention your good manners and sense of common courtesy, I am in error. You are the perfect blend of belligerence and refinement.

    "Did you not read the last post I made in the Apple thread?"

    But glory, for someone who’s so fond of the wind-up, you certainly don’t seem to recognise one when you see it! Especially one as blatant as that. So blatant I didn’t even bother adding a footnote for that asterisk. :) Although I really shouldn't wind you up; it always annoys me when you do it, and treat others, etc, etc. The madness has to end somewhere!

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  33. Phil - I believe that you and JJ are not the same person but, funnily enough, in your effort to differentiate yourself, you've all but written a list he could have written himself! :) With the exception of the Dandys, Spiderbait, The White Stripes and possibly Eternal Sunshine (not sure if he's seen it), you're in complete alignment. Tell me you're not a Dr Who fan, as well?!

    I'm also impressed that you've not only heard of TMBG, you actually like them! Though I'm hoping you're not one of those people who just likes 'Dr Worm' and 'Hey, it's that Malcolm in the Middle song...?' :)

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  34. I'm also impressed that you've not only heard of TMBG, you actually like them!

    Interesting. I latched onto them it seems like years ago and it's only in the last little while that via my eldest daughter (oops, age clue), I realised that they were actually still in circulation. No, I'm not a solely "Dr Worm" fan, more a "Birdhouse in Your Soul" type I think.

    Now, back to your absorbing kerning treatise :)

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  35. Ap - I actually went to your profile to find areas of common interest. (I wasn’t starting from scratch). So I guess that means you share a bit in common with JJ. By the way, I'm not a particular Dr Who fan. Although as a teenager in the 70s (oops, massive age give-way), I did find that Leela character quite alluring. Recent musical interests Artic Monkeys, The Shins.

    By the way, that kerning reference wasn't a wind-up. Did find it interesting. Also Myers vs Myer, Safeways vs Safeway.

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  36. The Kern chick is hot!

    So not too busy on a Friday arvo hey Phil... Trawling through Astros old rants... Just get him started on Connex and he will go for another couple of weeks at least...

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  37. "No, I'm not a solely "Dr Worm" fan, more a "Birdhouse in Your Soul" type I think."

    'Birdhouse' was my introduction to TMBG, care of Max Henshaw (another reader of my blog). And after your 'Bomberino', I was going to call you 'Vigilant Philibuster', but decided not to. Wish I had now. :)

    And TMBG are not only still in circulation, they're also producing their own kids' albums! And they're great. I know it all comes down to peer group in the end, but I'm really, reallllly hoping my daughter goes for TMBG over Hi-5, Wiggles, etc, etc.

    "So I guess that means you share a bit in common with JJ."

    Yes indeed. Except when it comes to John Farnham.

    "I did find that Leela character quite alluring."

    Ha, ha. Well there's another thing we've got in common!

    "By the way, that kerning reference wasn't a wind-up."

    No, no. I didn't take it as such. Something I've learned since writing that post is that the people out there want to know about kerning! As I say, people ask and when I explain there are always follow up questions. (And no, they're not just being polite. I can tell.) Once they know, they notice the need everywhere, and it pisses them off. Haha, my work here is done...

    "Also Myers vs Myer, Safeways vs Safeway."

    You're just lucky it's not the 'FlyBuy' card. Incidentally, I see they removed the space when they updated the identity. I'll have to take note of that.

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  38. "Just get him started on Connex and he will go for another couple of weeks at least..."

    I just wish Connex had someone like Phil! I'd love one of their people to pay me a visit to try and set me straight. Although I know what they'd do: they'd just post, "Apostropher, we apologise for any inconvenience caused," over and over and over again...

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  40. Uh-oh. Phil's somehow developed the ability to coerce the authors of unfavourable comments to delete them! I knew this wouldn't end well!

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  41. I'm not generally paranoid, but keeping yourself off one more commercial database seems like a good enough goal in and of itself.

    Bullshit you're not! :-D

    Wonderful post Ap and fantastic commenting. Perfect for a guy procrastinating from going to work in the morning!

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  42. You're just lucky it's not the 'FlyBuy' card

    "FlyBuys" actually...

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  43. Hey there Big guy, i got rid of mine years ago when i started to get letters from places that noticed where i shoped, and i thaught "thats enough of that!" and i cut it up and have been saying 'No i dont have stinkin' Fly Buys!!" for years.

    Well done mate.

    Hayno.

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  44. i started to get letters from places that noticed where i shoped

    Interesting viewpoint Jason. So would you rather get unaddressed mail or more catalogues, instead of information that may be more relevant to you based on your shopping habits? Now don’t get me wrong, I realise it can all backfire if they either bombard you with rubbish or make incorrect assumptions about your behaviour based on limited knowledge. And this may have happened in your case, although I have to say from observation it hasn’t been bad at all with FlyBuys, either from a frequency or relevance perspective. But if a company has $x million to spend on a marketing campaign, it’s hardly criminal of them to want to get best bang for their $ by sending relevant messages to relevant customers as opposed to a scattergun approach.

    and have been saying 'No i dont have stinkin' Fly Buys!!" for years.

    Gosh, and we wonder why checkout folk are getting grumpy these days!

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  45. "FlyBuys" actually...

    Phil in own-goal shocker...

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  46. He does sound a lot like me, doesn't he?

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  47. Procrastination over!

    Since we're back in Oz and I'm not yet back at work, I had the time to call Fly Buys "Customer Service" and order myself a brand spanking new card printed up (as well as one for "Karen" - the entity formerly known on this blog as "Future Spouse".)

    Bomber, I would have loved to have kept Bart racking up points for me as well, but I don't trust him - and to be fair, shouldn't expect him - to bother to pull the card (if he even still has it) out of his wallet when he isn't a direct "beneficiary".

    One can con little brothers into so much more when they are in their teens than when they are in their thirties.

    More importantly, FlyBuys only permit 4 cardholders per account, so to add Karen, someone had to go...

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  48. “I'm not generally paranoid...”

    "Bullshit you're not!"


    Well, even if you're right, can you blame me? One casual aside in the privacy of my world wide web, and a faceless corporation sends over hired goons to rearrange my furniture! Alright, a goon... and he ended up being quite pleasant about it, actually... but imagine he hadn't! Imagine he'd taken it as a personal slight, and decided to set me straight in person. With his fists! OR AN AXE! Pieced together, like a madman making a quilt from strips of flesh torn from his victims, there's probably more than enough information on this blog with which to track me and my defenceless family down! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

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  49. "No i dont have stinkin' Fly Buys!!"

    They're comin' out the woodwork now, Phil! :)

    "Gosh, and we wonder why checkout folk are getting grumpy these days!"

    Yeah, come on Hayno! That's unlike you. You could at least say, "I don' nee no steekin' Flarbaars!"

    "Phil in own-goal shocker..."

    Now I'm confused. I thought you were correcting me in the way I (used to) correct others (before I had my head handed to me one too many times). I was going to indulge in five seconds of pure fantasy, and say, "Oh, you're right! I never realised. Thanks for pointing that out," for as the saying goes, "Only a fool spurns correction," and I am no fool." If I am making an error, I would rather know than not know. People are too proud sometimes.

    "He does sound a lot like me, doesn't he?"

    Ha, ha. I'm glad you agree. Phil, were you educated by Jesuits by any chance?

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  50. Hup! And with this comment we sail into history! Five-O! Would would ever have thought? Certainly not the Archbishop from the previous 49 comment title-holder! The old thread makes for an interesting read. How little we've all changed! (I guess it's only been six months.)

    Oh, and well done Phil for securing this thread's 42nd Comment. (Doubly so if you're a Hitchhiker's fan?)

    Oh, and better make some comment relating to another on this thread so JJ doesn't get annoyed again... um, oh, JJ, surely just knowing that he's helping out another human being would be reward enough for Bart?

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  51. Troph,

    You're trying to get me to say something not nice about my brother. Which I won't do; after all, I do owe him a favour or two.

    Oh, and I actually cashed in some Fly Buys points today for Hoyts vouchers; since when ordering the new cards I was told I had points due to expire on the 31st.

    I feel so dirty.

    JJ

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  52. Oh, and I actually cashed in some Fly Buys points today for Hoyts vouchers

    Jolly fine choice too, jj

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  53. What happened to Bomber this one's for you?

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  54. Phil, it's nice to know you care! Or were you just annoyed that 'Fly Byes' was back at the head of the page? :)

    Anyway, sorry, that was my fault there. I was halfway through updating the post when I got suddenly called away. Thought I'd use the handy Draft feature, thinking it'd save my changes but leave the original post untouched until I pressed Publish. Not the case. Minor heart attack when for a second I thought I'd lost all your valued comments, but fortunately they all popped back when I re-published. So, lesson learned.

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